From miod at online.fr Tue Sep 5 07:34:44 2006 From: miod at online.fr (Miod Vallat) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:34:44 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] Testing recent OS on ReFUN hardware Message-ID: <1157434484.44fd0c74ab419@imp5-g19.free.fr> [sorry for posting in english to this list, but have no real knowledge of italian] Hello, I have discovered Pluto very recently; as an old workstation collector myself, I appreciate your efforts and the time you have invested in saving these machines and keeping them in working condition. I couldn't help but notice that your hp300 machines (fenchurch and roosta) are running quite old OpenBSD versions. As an OpenBSD developer myself, and responsible for the recent hp300 developments, I would be very interested in seeing dmesg of the forthcoming OpenBSD 4.0 on them [if you do not want to upgrade them, could you at least boot bsd.rd?] - especially on roosta since it seems its topcat(4) frame buffer is not detected in the current kernel you're running on it, and this is clearly a bug... If you have some spare time and Digital keyboards and mice available, you might be interested in trying recent OpenBSD on your video-capable VAXens as well (lunkwill and pizpot - fook's mono frame buffer is not supported yet). Please keep me in cc: of any answers, as I am not subscribed to this list. Keep up the good work anyway! Regards, Miod PS: fenchurch has a 25MHz 68040, not a 50MHz one (which never existed). This machine is actually an upgraded 400t (which have 68030 at 50), which is why it identifies itself as model 433 - all upgrades report themselves as 433, regardless of them being 25MHz or 33MHz. From Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it Tue Sep 5 09:12:23 2006 From: Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it (Danilo Selvestrel) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:12:23 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] Testing recent OS on ReFUN hardware In-Reply-To: <1157434484.44fd0c74ab419@imp5-g19.free.fr> References: <1157434484.44fd0c74ab419@imp5-g19.free.fr> Message-ID: <44FD2357.7000402@oapd.inaf.it> Miod Vallat wrote: > Hello, > Hi Miod, > I have discovered Pluto very recently; as an old workstation collector > myself, I appreciate your efforts and the time you have invested in > saving these machines and keeping them in working condition. > We appreciate someone is interested in our activity... > I couldn't help but notice that your hp300 machines (fenchurch and > roosta) are running quite old OpenBSD versions. As an OpenBSD developer > We have no time to upgrade our systems, it's indeed a big success if we find the time to install other boxes. Here only two guys take care of these "wheelbarrows". > myself, and responsible for the recent hp300 developments, I would be > very interested in seeing dmesg of the forthcoming OpenBSD 4.0 on them > [if you do not want to upgrade them, could you at least boot bsd.rd?] - > Yes, we can, as soon as it's possible. But I can't do forecasts about the date. > especially on roosta since it seems its topcat(4) frame buffer is not > detected in the current kernel you're running on it, and this is clearly > a bug... > > If you have some spare time and Digital keyboards and mice available, > you might be interested in trying recent OpenBSD on your video-capable > VAXens as well (lunkwill and pizpot - fook's mono frame buffer is not > supported yet). > Yeah, at least for "pizpot"; lunkwill and fook are VXT Xwindow terminals, they must boot from the network through a VAX binary. > Please keep me in cc: of any answers, as I am not subscribed to this > list. > You can subscribe to it if you want, it's not a busy list. > PS: fenchurch has a 25MHz 68040, not a 50MHz one (which never existed). > It's correct, thanks a lot. 50MHz version was tested but not released. I trusted too much of personal documentation. I downloaded the snapshots for vax and hp300 platforms. As soon as we can we will do the tests you asked. A lot of patience is required... Best regards, Danilo -- Danilo Selvestrel Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it FAX: +39 049 8759840 INAF - Astronomical Observatory of Padova WORK: +39 049 8293440 Via dell'Osservatorio 5, 1 - 35122 Padova .:.:.:.:.:.:. Immortality: signal(SIGKILL, SIG_IGN); .:.:.:.:.:.:.:. From miod at online.fr Tue Sep 5 09:31:54 2006 From: miod at online.fr (Miod Vallat) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:31:54 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] Testing recent OS on ReFUN hardware Message-ID: <20060905093154.4cuqarqmucggc88g@imp4.free.fr> >> If you have some spare time and Digital keyboards and mice available, >> you might be interested in trying recent OpenBSD on your video-capable >> VAXens as well (lunkwill and pizpot - fook's mono frame buffer is not >> supported yet). >> > Yeah, at least for "pizpot"; lunkwill and fook are VXT Xwindow terminals, > they must boot from the network through a VAX binary. The VXT can run OpenBSD as (slow) diskless systems now. > You can subscribe to it if you want, it's not a busy list. I am not sure this is a good idea. I suppose it's an italian language list, and I am not a member of Pluto - I am not sure how useful I can be. > I downloaded the snapshots for vax and hp300 platforms. As soon as we can > we will do the tests you asked. A lot of patience is required... Thanks! Playing with old machines teaches patience very well anyway (-: Regards, Miod From nick at linux.it Tue Sep 19 02:51:20 2006 From: nick at linux.it (Andrea Brugiolo) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:51:20 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] http://www.obsolyte.com Message-ID: <20060919005120.GA13094@cab.unipd.it> Lo conoscete? -- Quanto meglio sarebbe se invece che di giorno, quando c'e` gia` tanta luce, il sole splendesse di notte, quand'e` cosi` buio! From Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it Tue Sep 19 08:30:41 2006 From: Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it (Danilo Selvestrel) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:30:41 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] http://www.obsolyte.com In-Reply-To: <20060919005120.GA13094@cab.unipd.it> References: <20060919005120.GA13094@cab.unipd.it> Message-ID: <450F8E91.4050901@oapd.inaf.it> Andrea Brugiolo ha scritto: > Lo conoscete? Yes, mi ci sono imbattuto quando sognavo di rimettere in piedi la Iris. Mandi, Danilo -- Danilo Selvestrel Danilo.Selvestrel at oapd.inaf.it FAX: +39 049 8759840 INAF - Astronomical Observatory of Padova WORK: +39 049 8293440 Via dell'Osservatorio 5, 1 - 35122 Padova .:.:.:.:.:.:. Immortality: signal(SIGKILL, SIG_IGN); .:.:.:.:.:.:.:. From nick at linux.it Tue Sep 19 12:35:46 2006 From: nick at linux.it (Andrea Brugiolo) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:35:46 +0200 Subject: [PLUTO-refun] http://www.obsolyte.com In-Reply-To: <450F8E91.4050901@oapd.inaf.it> References: <20060919005120.GA13094@cab.unipd.it> <450F8E91.4050901@oapd.inaf.it> Message-ID: <20060919103546.GA15384@cab.unipd.it> On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 08:30:41AM +0200, Danilo Selvestrel wrote: > Andrea Brugiolo ha scritto: > > Lo conoscete? > > Yes, mi ci sono imbattuto quando sognavo di rimettere in piedi > la Iris. Mandi, > Danilo Non ho esaminato approfonditamente il sito; l'ho notato per le foto e la raccolta di dati tecnici, che possono sempre tornare utili per un confronto... Mandi :) -- Siccome l'oritteropo incede sul crinale giammai la libellula salira` le scale -- A. Brugiolo, "Versi animali"